"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit)
03/28/2016 at 21:45 • Filed to: None
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"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit)
03/28/2016 at 21:45 • Filed to: None | 0
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So I made a thing! BTW it’s supposed to be water-cooled with a radiator and a 600cc
square four
engine just like an old Ariel. It’s supposed to combine the best aesthetic elements of my favorite British, German and Japanese bikes into a casual-riding, 90-degree knee-bend bike.
bob and john
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/28/2016 at 21:56 |
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erm.
no. there is absolutely no value in the square 4 engine over anything else. mainly because of the extra friction and rotating mass of not only a second crank shaft, but the valve train as well.
a I2? sure. a V2? great. a V4? even better. but there is a reason why engines have a single crankshaft, to help reduce frictional loses.
and packaging. think about how long that extra crank shaft is going to be.
this is before we even get to cooling. you want it to be water cooled sure. but running lines and everything you need is going to be a PITFA.
and that motor is going to be HEAVY.
ariel didnt make very many square 4s.
there is a good reason for that.
as for the rest of the bike, you cant just throw in ‘less ugly’ and ‘stuff’ they were designed like that for a reason.
Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:00 |
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Not to mention this thing would be hotter than hell to sit on. I thought my Duc was bad.
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bob and john
> Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
03/28/2016 at 22:01 |
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eh, i figure it cant be that bad, seeing as he wants to water cool it. not air cooled
TheOnelectronic
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:02 |
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What about one of those swashplate four-cylinders like they use on Torpedos?
Also, I’m going to take a wild leap and say it wasn’t meant to be a technical diagram. I think he had a few core concepts he was concerned with and the rest is sort of inconsequential. “Eh, just do it like everyone else does” kept the Japanese motorcycle industry going for quite some time. UJM didn’t stand for “unique Japanese Motorcycle” after all.
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bob and john
> TheOnelectronic
03/28/2016 at 22:03 |
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your going to run into huge wear and tear problems on that. remember, this is a motor that needs to last at least 100K miles. not a 45 second torepdo then kaboom
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Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:06 |
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Oh I didn’t read carefully I just saw fins and assumed air cooled. Hell even the new Panigales are known for having brutally hot seats on warm days and they are liquid cooled.
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bob and john
> Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
03/28/2016 at 22:08 |
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I think thats more due to the fact the the exhaust runs RIGHT under your ass then the actual motor.
Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/28/2016 at 22:09 |
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You mean like this?
tpw_rules
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:14 |
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That’s how A/C compressors work. Those last 100K miles in cars just fine. I don’t see why you couldn’t use it for an ICE.
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bob and john
> tpw_rules
03/28/2016 at 22:15 |
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AC isnt on all the time, and its not moving 500 lbs of metal and human.
not to mention, you probably get shit-all for torque in one of those engines
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TheOnelectronic
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:18 |
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Put enough fairings and Monster logos on it and it might just last 45 seconds before a kaboom.
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TheOnelectronic
> Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/28/2016 at 22:19 |
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I like that covered rear section. Very Streamliner.
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TheOnelectronic
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/28/2016 at 22:20 |
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Some salty folks in here. I for one think it’s great to explore odd ideas.
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tpw_rules
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:21 |
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http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/POWER/u…
Here are some designed for use in aircraft and other applications. He does mention that they’re not super reliable, but nobody has really tried.
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bob and john
> tpw_rules
03/28/2016 at 22:31 |
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also, holy tits does that shit look HEAVY
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Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
> bob and john
03/28/2016 at 22:37 |
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Exactly but sitting on top of four cylinders is likely to get very hot due to the likely exhaust routes.